tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post7548635469352264223..comments2024-02-20T20:21:10.523-06:00Comments on Chronological Snobbery: Werner Herzog's Grizzly Man (2005)Ransomhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04044839274236944783noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-45809412936624103212017-09-01T01:21:01.424-05:002017-09-01T01:21:01.424-05:00This guy was a total wacko! You people are making ...This guy was a total wacko! You people are making him out to be a bear hero. He was not. He was stupid although he thought he was doing right he could not control what he was thought he was doing. Herzog and the bitch he left the tape to was only doing this to make money. They were only promoting a murder. He killed his girlfriend by having her there with him. He is a puke murderer due his sick belief. Herzog and the bitch he left his shit to were only out for money. This guy was fucked in the head. Anyone who doesn't see this is stupid. He got what he deserved but his girlfriend didn't.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15466206342554246363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-692845430507301842017-01-29T13:02:08.171-06:002017-01-29T13:02:08.171-06:00And perhaps as a self-described bear "expert&...And perhaps as a self-described bear "expert" and a painfilly lonely man, he made assurances to her that he couldn't keep in order to con her into joining him. Perhaps he told her there was nothing to worry about and that he would protect her. Freewill can be manipulated by a charming, deluded conman such as Treadwell. Benjamin Doverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02553001600854823789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-63123381825523446982017-01-29T12:56:08.835-06:002017-01-29T12:56:08.835-06:00Why ridicule him for doing what he believed in? Be...Why ridicule him for doing what he believed in? Because it got his girlfriend and 2 bears killed.Benjamin Doverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02553001600854823789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-57269121450830660192016-01-13T16:10:02.041-06:002016-01-13T16:10:02.041-06:00What do you mean all they wanted was his presence?...What do you mean all they wanted was his presence? Obviously one wanted his meatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-61518061723439743442015-11-03T17:30:16.170-06:002015-11-03T17:30:16.170-06:00Amen, but dumbass is an understatement Amen, but dumbass is an understatement Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485079236800971593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-82502056240594188362015-11-03T17:24:38.869-06:002015-11-03T17:24:38.869-06:00Amen, but dumbass is an understatement Amen, but dumbass is an understatement Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16485079236800971593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-83238304967489646012015-07-28T03:46:52.188-05:002015-07-28T03:46:52.188-05:00Love the title, Grizzly Man, but killed by a brown...Love the title, Grizzly Man, but killed by a brown bear. <br /><br />That said, re the tape, the problem that some of us have is that Herzog is trying to send the message of how vicious it all was, except nothing but the tape can do that properly. The gal should otherwise hear the tape, since hopefully if she did, she wouldn't repeat those incredibly stupid remarks that she made after the event. She needs to learn that we can have some love and sympathy for the bears without ever failing to forget that they are dangerous predatory animals best observed from a distance. And that's better for them and better for us. And so she and her crowd get the point, two bears were killed as a result of his stupidity. The bears could do without such. <br /><br />Lastly, re the Anon comment from June 5, 2015, sorry, but your "hero" doesn't get off that easy. Being a physician's assistant and otherwise intelligent generally doesn't mean that you know squat about bears. He was the self-professed "expert". So was his responsibility to act responsibly. He didn't. Should not have only had spray, should also have had at least a .357 firing 168 grain cast semi-wadcutters (and they both should have practiced firing enough to be able to put two shots through a coffee/tea saucer at 25 yards)(at least if they wanted to live).ResGestaehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10133884431694481456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-45169458249790669742015-06-04T21:13:03.984-05:002015-06-04T21:13:03.984-05:00It amazes me that people continue to blame Timothy...It amazes me that people continue to blame Timothy Treadwell for Amy's death. She was an educated woman whose chosen profession was a physician's assistant. I understand that she read Treadwell's book about living with the Grizzly's and was intrigued by his book and I assume intrigued by him as well and contacted him. This was the beginning of their relationship. As an intelligent woman in her mid thirties she chose to spend time camping in Alaska with Treadwell. If she had wanted bear spray for protection she could have bought some. If Treadwell objected to the bear spray then she could have chosen to ignore him or not join him. It's called free will.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-3288733579099328892015-05-15T14:43:30.768-05:002015-05-15T14:43:30.768-05:00I believe that Tim was a person who was deeply try...I believe that Tim was a person who was deeply trying to find a place where he felt wanted, needed and accepted in a most blatant manner. He seemed euphoric when in the wilderness out there living with the bears who he perceived to be his kin and he their protector and savior.<br />It seems as though if he could have crawled inside of a bear and lived inside of that bear, then thats where Timothy would finally find his "garden of eaden". <br />In a most macabre sort of way he accomplished just that. Im certain from just the little bit that I've become acquainted with learning of the man, that IF he were at the time of being attacked, was able to somehow separate himself from the savage and obscene pain and the brutal trauma of feeling his body, every bone muscle and ligament being eaten alive by this savage beast...Timothy would have savoured sudden intrusive manner in which this rogue beast came creeped into his campsite from the blackness of the cold dark, damp and rain soaked night. The smell of its wetness from rain soaked musky thick fur. Its massively powerful bone crushing jaws and to finally taste its very saliva and smell its hot putrid breath mixed with his own blood. I'm positive that Timothy would have preferred to become fully digested and be naturally processed and deposited into the ecosystem. onto and ultimately, into the very place in which most desperately strived to be part of remain forever. A deathwish? or a goal in life!....Vincent chirafisihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10672469558774357141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-35283787932987093782013-10-20T16:16:19.044-05:002013-10-20T16:16:19.044-05:00He was a narcosis, and his stupid girlfriend was a...He was a narcosis, and his stupid girlfriend was a co-dependent and died because if him. He never even acknowledged she was with him in his films!!!. He never even gave her bear spray to defend herself in case his stupid actions caused things to get out of control (like they did). It was never about the bears. If it was about the bears he would have stressed,and shown ppl to stayed a safe distance so the bears wouldn't feel comfortable around humans, and get close enough to attack. Attacking humans leads to killing the bears. It was always about HIM. How close HE could get to them. How HE was the only one who "understood them". How HE could ignore the rules of the parks. He was dumbass who died in a very predicable way, and now will cause many more deaths because ppl think its ok to act like he did toward wildlife.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-87447583535553112562013-01-23T13:20:23.358-06:002013-01-23T13:20:23.358-06:00Hes guilty of murder. If he wanted to be wreckless...Hes guilty of murder. If he wanted to be wreckless then so be it. Theres nothing anyone could of done. But to bring Amie Huenard into such a predicament and to face her death the way she did is horrific. She didn't even have a can of bear spray to have a fighting chance.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06022873665863259879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-7744574510610760072012-01-10T11:46:03.712-06:002012-01-10T11:46:03.712-06:00Most people are pathetically in bondage to a socie...Most people are pathetically in bondage to a society, both to its infrastructure and its notions. We are afraid of walking away from home in the middle of the night, to say nothing of living alone among bears for even an hour. It's our own cowardice and lack of passion that tries to justify itself by making TT and his aims ridiculous. <br />Thank you, Timothy, for your life and death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-16779023060667164292010-01-11T06:59:13.267-06:002010-01-11T06:59:13.267-06:00timothy treadwell at least got clean. At least he ...timothy treadwell at least got clean. At least he had a passion. He knew very well that his passion would kill him. Did he have a deathwish? Yes, and he chose bear nr 141 over heroin. Timmy like it wild. Why ridicule him for doing what he believed in?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13368971988141495312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-24018840549237972312010-01-06T20:18:12.719-06:002010-01-06T20:18:12.719-06:00IT NEVER SEIZES TO AMAZE ME OF THE IGNORENT, SELF ...IT NEVER SEIZES TO AMAZE ME OF THE IGNORENT, SELF RIGHTOUS, PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY. I TRULY BELIEVE TIMOTHY TREDWELL WAS A GIFT FROM GOD, AND THE GOOD PEOPLE SAW THIS;, THE BAD DID NOT(OF COURSE!) I NEVER MET HIM, ONLY HIS FILM AND STILL PHOTOS! THAT OF COURSE IS ENOUGH WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH A KIND, GENTLE, FULL OF LOVE FOR OUR OTHER CHILDREN FROM GOD! I KNEW WHEN I SAW THIS DOCUMENTRY BY CHANCE ONE DAY ON ANIMAL PLANET THIS MAN WAS TRULY BLESSED. I HAVE NEVER SEEN A BEAR LET ALONE DOZENS FOLLOW HIM, TOUCH HIM, AND WANT NOTHING FROM HIM BUT HIS PRESENCE. TIM WANTED NOTHING MORE THAN TO HAVE THE PRIVLEDGE AND THE HAPPINESS TO BE AROUND THEM. HE DID NOT DESERVE TO BE TAKEN AWAY IN THE WAY HE DID. THOSE WHO HAVE SAID HE DID ARE AS HEARTLESS AND HAVE NO IDEA HOW GOD'S NATURE TRULY WORKS. I WILL SAY TIM DID MAKE THOSE FEW MISTAKES THAT COST HIM HIS LIFE. PEOPLE DIE EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF THOSE MISTAKES THEY MAKE. THE BEARS AND THE FOXES WERE BLESSED WITH TIM, AND THEY KNEW IT. I FEEL THEY WHO KNEW HIM ARE FOREVER LOST WITHOUT HIM. THERE WILL NEVER BE ANOTHER TIM TREDWELL, HE IS TRULY AN ANGEL FROM GOD1Good Thoughtshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10519265719947683740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-64909393227686428222009-07-03T14:06:54.455-05:002009-07-03T14:06:54.455-05:00i think if anyhing should be drawn from this film ...i think if anyhing should be drawn from this film was this was a man who wanted to be famous and probably endngered these animals there is a poinent scene where so called "poachers" are fishing and one of his bears comes up to them and they throw stones at the bear to get it to leave and he gets enraged. if they were trulu evil they would have shot there guns this was someone deluded himself"johnny" rodrigueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00443089107069323596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-42731905707898749052008-09-28T22:22:00.000-05:002008-09-28T22:22:00.000-05:00Treadwell's bizarre behavior and sense of obsessio...Treadwell's bizarre behavior and sense of obsession with the bears can easily be traced back to his addictive personality. He was a heroin addict in the 80s and spent months getting clean. However, many addicts who are "clean" have simply replaced the alchohol or drugs with something else. In his case, it was the cause of "saving the bears". <BR/><BR/>Within the first few minutes of footage of Tim, it's pretty easy to see that this is a unique person, but also someone who is a bit skewed from normality. His paranoia and reclusiveness are also signs of mental problems, most likely leftovers from years of drug and alchohol abuse. It's important to note that long-term chemical addictions can physically and permanently change the brain chemistry, taking a normal, sane individual and making them mentally ill. Timothy Treadwell is a classic example of a clean addict who is charming, seductive, engaging and ultimately dangerous because their reality is not fully emmeshed in normalcy. It's especially dangerous when others are drawn into their world with no back-up plan for escape when their lives are threatened.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-63662279006675212162008-05-25T04:49:00.000-05:002008-05-25T04:49:00.000-05:00Other than moral, Puritan, considerations, there's...Other than moral, Puritan, considerations, there's no reason the tape should not be made available. Herzog's exclusion of the audio from the film greatly diminished the power of the film. Unless, of course, by hearing the audio, one realizes that TT was made ultimately ridiculous (cancelling his current hero status) by the fact that he misjudged and misplayed an important event in bear behavior, in spite of his many protestations that he "got" the bear. I guess we'll never know. Herzog *used* the tape and Jewel P. to further the interest in his film. No other reasonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1584136932457520514.post-72912873908563166772007-11-26T13:33:00.000-06:002007-11-26T13:33:00.000-06:00No man films obsession quite like Werner Herzog.No man films obsession quite like Werner Herzog.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04068217923979593122noreply@blogger.com